PDAC: Target investment, rally society to compete with China, says banking panel

Northern Miner publisher Anthony Vaccaro, left, speaks with Navdeep Bains, former minister of innovation, science and industry in a fireside chat at PDAC on Tuesday. Credit: Blair McBride

Prices and supplies of critical metals will increasingly hinge on government policy and geopolitical tensions, three of Canada’s top bankers said Monday at PDAC.

Speaking on a panel moderated by Northern Miner Group president Anthony Vaccaro, part of the “Peaks and valleys in mineral sector financing” session on the second day of the conference, executives from three of Canada’s five major banks shared their thoughts on future trends in mineral markets.

The panel kicked off by sharing their picks in an online poll of which metal from a list of copper, uranium, lithium and gold will outperform in the energy transition.

Ryan Latinovich, global head of the mining and metals group at RBC Capital Markets chose copper.

“I think it’s really at the centre… between that energy transition piece [and] electrification,” he said. “The supply and demand fundamentals are clearly pointing to a structural deficit in copper, there’s long lead times to get projects on board, [it’s] highly capital intensive, and finding and developing quality copper projects is becoming increasingly tough and at increasingly lower grades.”

Northern Miner Group president Anthony Vaccaro, left, speaks with banker panelists Ilan Bahar, Michael Faralla and Ryan Latinovich. Credit: Blair McBride

Michael Faralla, head of global mining investment banking at TD Securities picked uranium, saying that renewable energy isn’t the only solution in the energy transition.

“I think uranium as a cheap, low-carbon baseload power is going to be increasingly recognized as a part of that mix,” he said, adding that current uranium prices are incentivizing construction of new mines. “In terms of pure price appreciation, I pick uranium.”

Ilan Bahar, co-head of global metals and mining with BMO Capital Markets said that he agreed with the other panelists and took a middle ground between copper and uranium.

While no one on the panel chose lithium, Faralla noted that the critical metal is widely recognized as the most consistently used across all battery metals.

He also said lithium’s near-term prices are probably not sustainable. Battery grade lithium carbonate was selling for US$59,850 a tonne on Tuesday, up from US$70,675 a year ago, according to The Wall St. Journal.

“There’s the old adage that the cure for high prices is high prices,” he said. “And those prices are going to incent more production. And we should come back to perhaps a more stable long-term equilibrium.”

Supply and demand

With critical minerals now in high demand all over the world, they’ve become subject to geopolitics, and Vaccaro asked the panel how such moves as China paying for Middle Eastern oil in renminbi rather than dollars affects Western supply of the minerals.

“This is signalling that de-dollarization is becoming a big theme. Do you agree the world is becoming more bifurcated?” he asked.

Latinovich said demand is intensifying across geographic boundaries and around certain geopolitical orbits, creating tension in demand and constraints in supply. It has also shone a spotlight on sourcing minerals from Western-aligned countries, further disrupting supply and demand.

That alignment with the West isn’t guaranteed, and countries regarded as aligned, such as Panama pose their own risks, said BMO Capital Markets metals analyst Jackie Przybylowski in a fireside chat before the bankers panel.

“There’s no safe place to do business anymore,” she said. “Panama was seen as a very safe jurisdiction. And if things can go badly for First Quantum, it doesn’t feel like there’s anywhere that’s truly risk-free at this point. Managing the risk, being diversified is probably the key.”

Latinovich explained that in the long term, supply and demand tensions will pressure the pricing dynamics.

“If you break down what’s going on around critical minerals, with orbits of countries’ alignments around how we supply those minerals… it results in a one-way equation for me which is a very strong outlook on the pricing related to those commodities,” he said.

Anthony Vaccaro, left, speaks with BMO Capital Markets metals and mining analyst Jackie Przybylowski. Credit: Blair McBride

Agreeing with Latinovich, Bahar noted that in relation to M&A and financing, government policy towards critical minerals plays a role although it will take time to see results.

He pointed to the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) in the United States, which incentivizes the production of electric vehicles if minerals are sourced from countries that have free trade deals with the U.S.

“You need a certain amount of supply and what people quickly realized [is that] supplies are not actually available here and are controlled in some cases by a certain country that happens to have a 15-year head start. How do you catch up? That’s the key question,” he said.

One answer is that more investment is needed to increase supply, and investment is needed beyond what is in institutional investor funds, Bahar said.

“We’re also saying we want the investment from certain places. So, it’s a very interesting time. Policy evolves in time,” he said.

Focus on Canada’s strengths

But in the North American context, Canada’s nearly $3.8-billion Critical Mineral Strategy, while hailed by industry, pales in comparison to the US$369 billion earmarked in the IRA. Vaccaro asked the bankers how the Canadian government can make domestic assets sufficiently attractive.

Latinovich said Canada can emphasize positive stories, such as the climate change-mitigating aspects of resources, as well as “priming the pump from the public” to boost its support for critical minerals development.

Following the banker’s panel, former minister of innovation, science and industry, Navdeep Bains, spoke with Vaccaro in a fireside chat.

Bains, now vice-chair of global investment banking for CIBC, said he learned in his former role in the Trudeau government that technology will be critical on the path to meeting climate targets.

He also noted more action is needed to speed up mine permitting.

“There isn’t enough streamlining of projects. It’s a big deal,” Bains said. “The speed and scope we’re talking about are much greater than what the reality is today. Take copper: what we’ve mined in the last 5,000 years — 700 million tonnes of copper — is what we’ll need in the next 22 years to meet the energy transition needs.”

Turning to the international context, the former minister said a decoupling of China from the world’s economy is a real issue that presents many challenges and is currently playing out in Africa and Southeast Asia. But it’s also an opportunity for the West to offer an alternative to China’s Belt and Road initiative.

“We have to look at unique economic benefits, real meaningful partnerships. Those incentives can help us compete with China,” he said.

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